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welcome to the friday
friday friday afternoon
crossfit talk it is really
cool getting to watch a
competitive crossfit event
and it being done at three
o'clock in the afternoon
and you like that a wrap-up
show at a decent hour other
than stuff with my wife tonight
I guess other than the wrap up,
being able to do the wrap
up and like have dinner and be free.
I like, I feel rushed to try to watch it.
Like I would rather get home
and then rewatch the events.
I mean,
I'm at the gym when this is going on,
so it's just tough.
yeah I I didn't get to watch
it with the intent
intention that I usually do
right because actually what
I was doing work at work
today um and so I had it on
like off to my left of my
screen so I kind of I was
following along but I was
working on some testing and
stuff stuff like that so I
didn't get to um really pay
super close attention um
kat texted me in the middle of event
handstand push-up one okay
the third one and
questioned adler's rep
count and I was like I have
no idea I I'm not counting
reps I don't even if I'm
watching intently I don't
know if I'm counting reps
yeah I mean how often does
the camera stay on one
person long enough for you
to even be able to do that
so with the new vr in the
tailgate you actually get
to move the camera to
whoever you want that's awesome
you could watch the same
person um but again like
maybe back when I was
judging all the time like I
might have counted reps to
like just because that
would be in my frame of
mind but now that I've
retired judging like that
doesn't even cross my mind
anymore I'm I'm looking for
the stories I'm looking for
what to talk about on these
shows yeah um but
I rarely count reps,
but I am watching reps, like,
for good reps.
Like,
I'm watching people's ring muscle-ups.
I heard some comments on, like,
squat depth, even the squat snatch.
I actually thought everyone
looked really great today.
I did, too.
When people were getting no-repped,
it actually surprised me.
Agreed.
For the first time.
Usually, it's the inverse of that.
Right.
Where this was a surprise
that they actually threw a no-rep.
Right.
But the angle was mostly like head on.
Yeah.
So it's not the best angle
to judge a squat.
But even that, like a lot of the,
like butt looked below.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
I was doing so good in shot
collar until the last event.
Really?
I haven't even looked.
So Jeff, pull that up.
I haven't looked since the last event.
Apparently Birch and I are tied.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That could be good or bad.
It could be.
Yeah.
How are we doing, Jeff?
Are we doing okay?
You just, you both are in that,
in that direction, which whichever it is.
Yeah.
So in the, and I know we,
you and I talked about this
a little bit since you
haven't been able to
necessarily watch it live
and you bought the tailgate stream,
you noticed you can't,
rewind while it's live you
gotta now you could go back
and watch it right so so
yeah it's it's kind of
misleading I don't want to
downplay down dog this
because it is a great great
supplement to watching the
event but the going back
and watching it is not as
easy as they make it out to be okay
And the replays that are
available in that hub are
the main telecast.
So you're just getting what
you can get on YouTube.
Okay.
For the replays.
You cannot pause the tailgate party.
You cannot do that.
But the commentary on the
tailgate party was awesome.
Did you buy it this year?
No, I haven't.
And I might get it tomorrow.
I just,
I knew today was going to be sort
of tough for me watching live.
Although this morning I was
able to kind of watch live
a couple of events.
yeah I actually I actually
woke up at like five this
morning to pee and so I
just I turned it on yeah
and I watched strongman I
watched it up to watch thor
lift a thousand ten pounds
which and it didn't even
look hard which was just
astounding insane um
And then I came downstairs
so I could give full
attention to the first heat
of men doing the run sandbag carry thing,
which turned out to be an amazing event.
I liked it.
For a long run event,
it was really exciting to watch.
Mm-hmm.
And I do think like the,
the tailgate party offers a
lot to that commentary
because they'll not only
because it was Annie, Annie and Josh.
with pat sherwood and they
they were talking they were
telling stories as well as
giving commentary but when
they're out on a four meter
run it's okay that they're
telling a story in round
four right you know I mean
um one of the stories that
was awesome was uh
that Jason Hopper came up to
Josh Bridges after saying
that he had finished
seventh every year at Rogue,
that he's been there,
and top five is winning.
And Josh goes, so Annie,
what do you think about the
phrase top five is winning?
And Annie's like, no.
No, winning is winning.
We're not about participation trophies.
Fair enough.
She said it's fine to have a
realistic goal.
Yes.
But winning is winning.
Right.
And it was awesome.
Yeah.
uh that's just one of the
highlights of this morning
um but that event was
awesome so let's go through
the events we're just kind
of rambling around at this
point um and then we'll
talk about the alternate
broadcast real quick and
then we'll preview tomorrow
a little bit okay so event
one was the run sandbag
that started with the men
um it came down to a two
tenths of a second race
in a nineteen minute event,
which is unreal.
So Adler and Ricky came down
and Ricky came from behind
and got to two tenths of a
second win at the very end.
And it was unreal watching
them sprint the last.
Twenty five yards was amazing.
I mean, it sucks for Adler.
It's so hard to know your lead.
I mean, you know, he's sprinting, but like,
it's just different when you're,
when you're Ricky and
you're that feet behind you, just,
it's just different.
Props to Ricky.
That was a great finish.
Well,
and he kind of had the psychological
advantage because he had the closer lane.
Yep.
right so even though they
went out the other way so
it was longer for him to
get out that coming back in
just gave him that
psychological edge like if
I'm going to take him it
has to be here and it was
it was pretty awesome yeah
um lynn's talking about sam
cornway who killed the
first heat he did and it
would have been interesting
to see what he would have
done had he been in heat too
Because there was, well,
he kind of came out of nowhere, too.
Yeah.
Because that was mostly Chandler.
So, yeah, exactly.
I almost feel like it's
possible he could have done
worse if he would have been
in the better heat.
Like, he was in this comfortable place.
probably just tail and heels
and then was able to surge
there on that last one.
If he would have tried to go
faster earlier with some of
that lead crowd, I mean,
he looked great at the end,
so maybe he could have gone even faster,
but I feel like if he could
have gone even faster,
he would have gone under
the lead in the sixth,
seventh round and won by a larger margin,
kind of like Haley.
So I don't know.
Yeah,
it would have been very interesting
to see him in the other heat.
So let me ask you this.
Do you think the sandbags
made a difference?
Did it matter the strategy
you used in moving the sandbags?
Yeah, I do think it mattered a little bit.
The order, I don't know.
I was trying to figure that out.
Most people seem to go kind
of similar order.
But, I mean, Jay cost himself with that,
with dropping it.
Yeah.
Um, so you couldn't,
you definitely couldn't
have a mistake on the sandbag.
And then there was an actually, I mean,
feel like Jay messed up
twice in that workout.
Well, three times getting his ruck off,
dropping the sandbag or
when he was trying to lift
it and then dropping it and
getting called back to like
fix it in his lane.
So he had some, uh, definite hangups.
I saw this, but,
but Ricky saved the two hundred,
the big pill.
For Last and Adler did not.
Adler saved Little Bag.
Okay.
And I thought that that was
going to be enough to get
out further ahead.
Yeah.
But it didn't seem to...
Huh?
Yeah.
That is super interesting.
I didn't notice that.
I noticed is they did say
there's a monitor back in
the warmup area.
The second heat was much smoother with the,
the rucks coming off and,
and the bag movement.
And I think they also were
more elite athletes like
Adler made all of those
sandbags look light.
Yes.
And so,
and so did Ricky for the most part.
So I think for them,
it really didn't matter.
I know none of the women dragged the bag.
There was only one or two
men that dragged it, right?
Yeah.
Only one of the men did any dragging.
Right.
And then everyone was like, yeah,
that's not worth it.
Yeah.
You don't know that the
order played a role.
Maybe some of the forward to back.
I think it may have played
more of a role in the women's race.
Because you could tell some
of those bags were pretty
heavy for Haley.
yes definitely messed with
their stride they had to
pick it up right yes I
agree and I noticed like
she picked up the heaviest
bag right after she dropped
the rock which I think was
a pretty smart move like
don't do it while you have
the extra twenty pounds on
right I knew it um so
Well, Jay Birch moved in front of me,
apparently.
I must have tanked the last one.
Yeah, I was humming right along.
I think it's messed up
because there's people that
have more than the possible.
There's someone with six
hundred and five points.
You can only have six
hundred points right now.
Weird.
But I was good until I
picked Alex Kazan in the last event.
She hurt me.
Bad.
Yeah, that was yeah.
Interesting performance there.
We'll get to that.
Yep.
So in the, the women's race, uh,
Haley had a great first heat,
nobody around her.
Yeah.
Now she's one for, I gotta say,
I fully expected Sydney to
work with hate.
Like I expected them to be
way out front and working together.
I'm shocked that Sydney
wasn't second in that heat.
So that sucks for Haley,
that she truly was on her
own in that heat.
I think she for sure could
have gotten fourth.
Yeah, I do agree.
I think if she would have
been in that lead heat,
she would have done better.
But nobody was beating Tia.
Absolutely not.
Nope.
And Gabby Magawa took second.
She did great.
She looked awesome.
Emily Rolfe took third and
Laura Horvath took fourth.
Yeah.
Two time caps for the women in that event,
about two minute,
two minute off from men to
women in that kind of the
general theme I'm seeing today.
yeah I yeah but I thought
that was a great event um I
thought it was well done I
thought the sandbag thing
was fun whether it played a
part or not um the fact
that they had to make a
choice and that they could
not drop it like you could
not drop the bag no um that
was that was pretty awesome
So before we move on to point two,
none of my prop bets have
finished yet unless I do
not have them all loaded.
Lynn says you can get more
than six hundred with prop bets.
But all the prop bets that I saw were like,
well,
Taylor Williamson finished overall
this weekend at blah, blah, blah.
And we'll.
Yeah,
I'm trying to differentiate between
Gab or Gabby and Laura.
I'm thinking it's the I
think there was one for Tia.
Wasn't there one for Tia in
that first event?
Maybe not.
There was.
I did not see it.
Yeah, the prop bets I see are Taylor,
Gabby versus Laura, James Sprague,
and Laura versus the field.
That's all I see.
So yeah, none should be in there.
You're right.
And none of those are finished.
Yeah, you're right.
And right now...
Now we have people with nine
hundred points.
How do you have nine hundred points?
Well, I guess.
OK, that's right.
That seems right.
But nine hundred five.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I have eight hundred five points.
Because you have a hundred for three.
It should still only be six
hundred points.
No, you get the extra points.
Nine hundred points is the most,
but you still can't even
get that because your flex can't win two.
Like one of the three can't
get a hundred points.
You have the two winners and
you have your flex.
It can only get ninety five.
Yeah, I can't drill down.
Oh, wait.
Let's see.
I'm trying to see this
wrangle who's in first,
what he has for point-wise.
So it looks like he has hundred, hundred,
ninety-five.
North Sea has hundred, ninety, hundred.
And then ninety-five, one-twenty-five,
one-hundred.
So somehow he got a hundred
and twenty-five points for
picking Emmental in Braveheart.
How is that possible?
I don't know.
That does seem – because Tia
Toomey got him a hundred points.
A hundred and twenty-five
points for him at all makes no sense.
There seems to be an error
in there somewhere.
Yeah.
There's been some all day,
so we'll just let that go.
Okay.
So then event two was your
favorite echo bike, muscle up,
squat snatch, shuttle run.
Mm-hmm.
On the men's side, they went first.
He won, killed it, but then what the hell?
He ran so slow.
I don't know that he did.
Quite honestly,
everyone looked slow to me.
Fikowski was shuffling.
I didn't think he looked that slow.
Would I have liked to have
seen him pick it up for the last two?
Yeah.
Also tough when you're out on your own.
to know that you need to, I mean, yes,
you should know there's a
whole nother heat and
people are going to move fast,
but it was only by like,
ended up being by like five seconds.
So yeah, that sucks.
It sucks for him that he wasn't in a,
in the other heat and had
some more urgency.
Um, but yeah.
And then we had Dallin pepper,
just crush it and heat too.
Uh,
and I think that workout all came down
to the squat snatches.
hundred unless you were
terrible at one of the
other unless you were
terrible at muscle ups
right it came down to who
could get through those
eight squat snatches
fastest yep and gee killed
it and he won and dylan
killed it in heat too and
there you had it we then
moved to the women
Now the women,
so most of the men took like
one break on the muscle-ups.
Yep.
The women, it was more than one break.
And the announcers on the
tailgate were very adamant about like,
if you're not going to just
go pick up the bar,
it's better to take a rest
on the muscle-up so that
you're ready for the bar
when you get there.
It's pointless to spend it
all out on the...
on the muscle up like Emma tall did,
and then get to the bar and
sit there for two minutes
and then miss your first attempt.
Right.
So, um,
Emma tall came out super hot in
that event.
Um, in, in that one, it was, who was it?
And he won.
He won was, um, Taylor Williamson.
Oh yeah.
Not shocked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
she can get through those snatches
fatigued for sure.
And then he too, it was T the Tia show, uh,
with Gabby McGowan right there.
Well,
as right there as you can be against
Tia to me.
Um, but yeah, very respectful,
respectable.
What?
I had to take one of my
earphones out and it's now
dangling and making,
making life hell for me.
Um, so in event two, I'm going to re we,
then we had Laura in third, um,
Taylor from heat one came
in fourth and then Mano
Anganese from heat one came in fifth.
Yeah.
How exciting was that race between, uh,
Gabby and Laura?
It's pretty exciting,
except for Gabby really
pulled apart in the shuttle runs,
which shocked me.
Yeah, I was like, you know,
yelling at the TV, pick it up, come on.
That was exciting.
No communication between them, no.
I think I was going to say,
this is probably a good
time to bring this up, right?
There's been no interaction
between the two of them at all.
No.
This show isn't always about the tea.
But this tea, everybody knew coming in,
there's been this mystery.
Is it going to be weird?
Is it going to be?
And it was definitely weird.
Agreed.
And I think it has affected Laura.
She seems a little bit off.
And it seems to have driven Gabby.
It does seem to have driven Gabby.
I think Laura's done exactly
what she would have done
had nothing changed for her, honestly.
I mean, she got fourth in the run event.
She did fine.
And third in this event.
Yeah.
Very, very close.
But she is such a monster on the eco bike.
And her lifting is so good.
Like I would have thought
she would have beat Gabby in that event.
I am.
Look like she,
she shifted down on the shuttle run.
It did.
She did look tight.
Maybe the first event taking
forth took more out of her
than we anticipated.
Everyone looked slow in the shuttles.
Everyone.
You got to think they just
ran and picked up sandbags
for a pretty long distance.
don't disagree I just think
that that there was there
had to be some stress on
laura she's the defending
games champ did not
complete the games because
of the tragedy she is the
rogue champion coming back
that's a lot of pressure
and then you throw on top
of this this gabby kristoff
thing of whatever it is and
it just seems because when
she finishes she just goes
and sits on a cooler
I know she's that's the I
think that's even bigger
than maybe not talking to Gabby.
She's not talking to anybody.
She's the lone wolf out there.
Yeah, exactly.
And Gabby's over there
taking selfies with the
fans and doing all that.
Like people love her.
People are here for it.
They are.
It's crazy.
So then we go to.
Did you like that event?
I thought it was fun to
watch as a spectator.
Do you like when there's a
pretty big discrepancy
between the men and women?
Do you not care because it's
two different... I don't care.
The women are going against the women,
the men are going against the men,
so it doesn't matter?
It's two different events to me.
And I like the races on both sides.
You and Carolyn...
drafted a novel the other night on text.
And I know that your
feelings on it and I get
where you're coming from as
a competitor and as a female competitor,
wanting to kind of have the
same experience as the men.
Yeah.
Right.
So I get all of that, but me as a fan,
as a spectator, I just enjoyed the races.
So I enjoyed watching like, like,
I enjoyed watching people be
dominant who are dominant at,
at those things.
Like Tia is so good at
muscle ups and so good at lifting.
Like there was no question
she was going to win that.
Sure.
But even she was a minute behind the men.
Right.
That's not, you know,
that doesn't matter to me
because I'm not paying.
I'm not looking at what the
men got when I'm watching the women go.
I know you and Carolyn are because I,
so I totally understand
where you're coming from.
I just, I, I, I mean,
I expect Tia to dominate
all every event really.
Um, it's,
it's awesome to see Tia push the
level of fitness and
strength and combine that.
And you like Tia is normally
somebody that you would
maybe even consider in this
event would have, um,
Biked moderately hard,
probably gone unbroken in
the ring muscle-ups,
and then cycled the snatch fairly fast.
And you just even, you know, well, I mean,
even the men didn't really
go unbroken in muscle-ups,
which people thought they might.
To see five time caps...
out of twenty people,
I think it's over-programmed.
I think you get people
watching the stream
thinking people are going
to darn near touch and go
these snatches and sprint
these shuttles when they're
fatigued on heavy legs from
just biking and hitting the snatches.
It's frustrating for me to watch.
It reminds me a little bit
of the of the commentary
after and even like the wrap up of J.R.
talking about dumb standard.
You like he said,
the only two people at that
competition that were able
to make that event about
fitness were Colton and Taylor.
Two men.
There was no women that
really able to make it much
about fitness like that.
And I think that I just, for me,
that's what we're missing in this sport.
And people keep pushing the
strength and we aren't just like, I mean,
if they're talking about on the,
on the broadcast, keep taking breaks,
like you need to be ready
to hit the spot.
And even then they have to
stand around before they hit the snatch.
Like,
why are we upping the weight on the
snatch for the women?
Why?
But let's be fair.
Let's be fair.
Sydney Wells did not cap
because of the weight on the bar.
Okay,
but it's even like you could have
done... Taylor Hale did not
cap because of the weight on the bar.
Sure.
It's, you know, yeah,
there's definitely a ring
muscle-up component to this for sure.
But the fact that that is
even more to my point,
ring muscle-ups are just
harder and more taxing on women.
So to give men and women the
exact same ring muscle-ups
and then up the weight on
the women for the snatch is just...
Crazy to me.
Maybe if you wanted to up,
maybe you go twelve ring
muscle ups and then do the
one sixty and see and mix
that weightlifting gymnastics component.
But I just I'm I'm sick of
seeing things slow down to
hit these heavier weights
when I'd rather see the fitness.
And it's surprising.
I know that that's kind of
what Rogue's deal is, right?
But the programmers are
these two little guys that
struggled with the heavy
stuff their whole career.
And then you have Katie,
who loves a good back squat,
which I love her for.
But, you know... So, do you think it's...
I can't even think it's the
bias of the programmers
because I can't imagine
Josh and Chris wanting to go heavier,
but they are men.
Right.
So are they looking at it
for a female perspective?
I don't know because the, I will say,
I feel like the programming
has been spot on for the men.
There's been no time caps.
There's been exciting races.
It's been a little bit more
pushing the fitness in the movements.
Um,
I've re I've actually really enjoyed
all the races and the
programming for the men.
I can't say the same for the women.
Yeah.
Okay.
I just enjoyed the race.
So let's go to event three.
You want everyone to finish
to see the race, right?
Right.
And this early in the weekend,
everybody should be doing all the work.
Yes.
That part I do get.
Yeah.
It's unfair just because you
stink that you'd get out of
doing all of the reps early
in the week because that
can actually help you out tomorrow.
Mm-hmm.
when you when you're really
really bad no programming
is going to help that
that's true like sydney
we've known this for years
struggles on high volume
muscle ups of any kind and
it doesn't matter how you
program it she's probably
going to get capped yep
taylor howe is not going to
struggle with a barbell and
it no matter how you
programmed it she was going to struggle
And you don't want to, you know,
you program for the best,
scale for the rest.
And when you only have
twenty people in this competition,
there's no room for scaling.
You have to,
these are the best of the best.
But I do get your point.
I do think that the
muscle-ups probably should
have been a few less than the men.
Yeah, I mean,
I would have been okay with that option.
Like,
if you wanted to push the weight for
the women, then we need to.
Because, I mean, the women were twenty,
thirty seconds slower off the bike,
even with scaled calories,
and it taxes them even more.
Like,
you're already putting them at a
disadvantage.
And it was a short bar on turf.
So it was even heavier than it was listed.
You would never expect that, right?
Like, yeah.
So Jay Birch comes in with,
I've talked to Josh about
this at previous Rogue events,
and when it comes to weights for women,
they are sometimes
overruled on what they program.
If you listen to the
tailgate parties on these broadcasts,
Josh talks about getting overruled a lot.
Last year, he talked about it a ton.
Not so far this year, but last year,
Katie... I mean,
it is Katie's... It is her event.
Yeah.
So...
So we go to event three.
Event three was the wall
walk complex and the back squat.
I,
I'm a guy who loves a good back squat
and I love that it's heavy
and I love that it's
programmed into this event
and the counter punch of
the gymnastics workout of
the wall walk in the two
strict handstand pushups I
thought was beautiful.
But if you stink at either one of these,
you are going to pay.
Yep.
If you are Danielle Brandon
and you can't back squat,
you're going to pay.
If you are Laura Horvat and
you cannot handstand pushup strict,
you're going to pay.
She finished at least.
She did.
She did.
But yeah, I mean, once again,
a couple of caps on the
women's side worked out fine for the men.
Pretty good races.
Yeah.
Jeff Adler ends up winning this one.
Only got to go under six.
And Justin Medeiros needed a
second place finish in this one.
Very bad.
Yes.
Guy Medeiros takes third.
Once again, out of that first heat,
I J crouch fourth and Jorge
Fernandez pops up with a
fifth place finish.
Yeah, I'm actually,
that's one of my surprises
of the day is where Jorge
is sitting overall.
Yeah, I've, I've got this sorted on that,
but, um, we'll do rank.
And then overall for the men,
it's Adler first, Ricky second,
Dallin third, Hopper fourth,
Chandler Smith fifth,
Patrick Vellner sixth, Guy seventh,
Brent eighth, Jorge ninth,
and Sam Conway tenth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kenneth says,
I'm not impressed by the programming.
I am.
I do see where Jamie's
coming from on the second event.
I will give her that,
but the first event was freaking awesome.
Yeah.
First event was good.
I mean, I thought it was great.
It is different than the games.
It is not something you see
programmed very much anywhere,
but squatting is a fundamental movement.
And I,
and I actually liked the wall walk
into the handstand pushup.
I liked it.
I just, I think it was a little heavy.
Lynn said, I love the programming.
Yeah, we're fifty-fifty.
So I thought that was a good race.
That was a wall walk into
handstand push-up event.
The back squat only played a
part if you were not real good.
In my opinion.
In my opinion.
Yeah.
Now some, some could cycle it pretty fast.
Like, uh, like a Spiegel or, um, an Adler.
Um, they did really well on this.
Um,
but pretty much everybody else was
pretty consistent.
Um,
it was the handstand walk to handstand
pushup that I really separated there.
Yep.
Those are gnarly.
I've done those.
And then on the women's side, uh,
for this event,
we had Tia in first Brooke
Wells with a nice comeback into second.
Wow.
Um, Danny Spiegel in third,
Gabby Magawa fourth Sydney Wells fifth.
She needed that bad.
Yeah.
Uh,
Taylor house sixth and Ariel low in
seventh.
And what's what I think,
why I think it's good programming.
Just think about it.
Like,
like Danny Spiegel had an eighteenth
and a third.
Sydney Wells had a twentieth and a fifth.
Taylor Howe had a seventeenth and a sixth.
Like you're getting a
variety of stuff that's
unless you are great, like Tia,
who has all firsts or Gabby,
who has all top five finishes like.
You're seeing that up and
down on the leaderboard.
Yeah, I'm bummed for Haley.
I wish,
I wish she could have handled the
squat just a little bit
better and kept her in the race.
I mean, she, that's my other big,
other than Jorge being top
ten at the end of the day,
my biggest prize is her in event two.
She looked incredible.
She handled really well.
I think she moved them faster than Danny.
Now she was really meticulous about her.
I think she took four breaks
on ring muscle ups.
Um,
And like,
I think she went like two to one
at the end just to, you know,
be ready for him.
And yeah, it was smart move.
You can see the people who
tried to move a little faster earlier.
It definitely cost them.
They just couldn't recover.
Couldn't get there.
Couldn't lock out snatch or I don't know.
Yeah.
She did.
That's my big thing.
She looked incredible,
which knowing that her
strength has gone up.
I actually,
I thought that she would be
okay through this one.
I mean, I,
I expect her to be great at the
well walk.
So I just like,
even if you go slow and
break up those back squats,
I thought she'd finish.
Um, I'm bummed for this,
that this finish sucks.
She's still in a,
she's still not in a bad spot.
Yeah.
And I,
and I think she'll do okay at the rest.
Um, but yeah.
So if we look at the overall
rankings on the women,
the top ten is Tia is first,
Gabby McGowan second, Laura Horvat third,
Brooke Wells fourth, Ariel Lowen fifth,
Mano Angony sixth, Haley Adams seventh,
Emily Rolfe eighth, Danny Spiegel ninth,
and Maddie Sturt tenth.
And what's crazy is like from...
mean fourth place gosh laura
fourteenth has a fourteenth
brookwell's a fourteenth
arielona twelfth mano a
fifteenth haley adams a
nineteenth emily rolfe an
eighteenth like in the top
ten everybody's had a
really bad finish right but
I think it's been an
overall a really good first day
So I'm going to... Kenneth's
throwing all this stuff in.
What about the rumors about
training camp departures?
I think there are training
camp departures every year.
And the rumor is coming from
Peter White reporting that
he saw people hanging out
with people at Rogue that
you don't normally see hang out together.
But it was just...
what he saw.
There's nothing official about that.
But because of the tragedy at the games,
the offseason didn't start
off as quickly as it normally does.
And so that training camp
movement hasn't really
played out like it did in past years.
And so the speculation is
that it's probably going to
happen right after Rogue.
Because if you don't have
coaches and athletes
together in one spot to recruit,
you're not going to get the
training camp movement.
But there's nothing official
on this at all.
This is just one report of
people hanging out with each other.
Who's hanging out with who?
He did not say.
So to report on this is just,
it's sensitive at this point.
Name names.
Right.
Well, I wasn't there to name names.
No, I know.
But like if Peter's even
going to bring it up,
name names or don't.
Uh, what's event six.
I have no clue.
I,
I do not have the inside sources that
other people do.
Um, so, and even if I knew it,
I would never release it
because I believe that, uh,
the integrity of the sport
is needed for it to grow.
And I would not release that information.
I mean, they might not release it until.
Like right before it.
Maybe in the morning.
But there's another podcast,
a very famous one, the Seven On Podcast,
where people know what the event is.
Oh, they do?
Yeah, they're not saying what it is.
So athletes must already know.
They're just saying they know.
Athletes must already know.
Katie said that they do not know.
Oh, geez.
Well, how the frick do they know?
If you know someone who
tested it or someone who
designed it or...
Who, who the hell knows how they know you,
there has to be a group of
people that know, right.
Any one of them spills the
beans and it's leaked.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Well, hopefully, I mean, I don't know.
Hopefully get it early enough.
We get it early enough as a
public to be able to vote in a,
in a heat one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not usually sitting by
my phone ready to put those
score picks in.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know either.
I might have to do a blind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause everything's done by noon tomorrow.
Oh gosh.
I probably won't be able to watch any.
I mean, we start our, we start class at.
And finish around.
I mean,
I don't think we'll be done until
like noon.
I'll probably play it at the gym.
So a couple other things.
I, uh, Carolyn is there.
If you didn't see, she was, uh,
a guest on the tailgate party, uh,
with Margo Alvarez and Josh Bridges.
I think, no.
Who was it?
I don't even know.
In your picture.
I was trying to look at that.
Who was on Margo beside her.
And it's a spieler.
It was spieler.
Oh, okay.
Sure.
Would her and, uh, um,
Yeah.
And Margo.
So they were really they were awesome.
Carolyn was great on there.
They talked about like
getting fit using other sports.
And of course,
Carolyn is like the poster
child for that because
she's done every sport under the sun.
And she played professional
hockey until a year ago
while she was competing in CrossFit.
And counter to that was Margo saying,
I would never have done
that spiel or two.
I was so like zoned in to
being the best at CrossFit
and getting stronger that I
did not go skiing or I
didn't go snowboarding at
all during those times
because I didn't want to risk injury.
And Margo said the same thing.
Mm hmm.
And so they're definitely two.
They both actually kind of
lamented that they wish
they would have taken a
different approach because
there can be balance and
you still be really good at your sport.
um so that was pretty fun um
a couple other highlights
from the tailgate party
were they're they're doing
this awesome job of like
providing content in
between events um it
started this morning where
they had a um they had
velner horvat and mitchell
hooper the three champions from last year
interviewing each other I
don't know if they were
given questions or they
came up with them on their
own but it was great
hearing the banter back and
forth about different
things and them truly
wanting to know about each
other um that was really
good they played that in
between some events they've
been doing some of the
rogue challenges with
spectators so like tommy
hackenbrook went up against
two women in the sandbag hold
The women beat Tommy.
That's awesome.
They did.
Tonya Wagner went up against
a man on the most devil's
presses in two minutes.
But I think it's cool that
the legends are competing
against just regular Joe's
out of the fans.
Those fans are probably
highlight of their year.
And they're doing it right
in front of the desk of the
tailgate party.
That's awesome.
Um, and so like you,
you're hearing comments like, uh,
spieler ripping on
Hackenbrook the whole time
he's holding the bag and,
and stuff like that.
It's, it's really, really fun.
And it's cool that they're
using that to kind of fill in the gaps.
And it gives you something
to watch and something to enjoy.
They're playing videos.
They're playing affiliate videos.
They're playing a bunch of
different things.
It's really, really cool.
And I'm really enjoying that.
They've added this VR camera,
which was not there last year,
where during an event,
you can actually click on a camera
And I think Katie was describing,
it's actually three cameras,
but you can actually turn it.
Okay.
You can turn it.
You can zoom in.
You can zoom out.
You can go to a specific
lane during the event.
And so if you want to watch one person,
you can.
If you want to zoom out and
see the whole field, you can.
You're pretty much the
director with this VR camera.
And there are two positions.
There's one on the side and
one on the rig.
Okay.
And so you can pick between
the two and then you can zoom in,
zoom out, turn, uh,
and kind of catch
everything you want to catch.
That's amazing.
I would totally do that for the games.
Cause I can't stand who that,
how the team on the floor,
I cannot stand what they choose to show.
Right.
So like in that run event,
if you wanted to see how
many sandbags are left in the lane,
you could zoom in and like,
look at the sandbags if you wanted to.
That's cool.
was pretty cool so uh
there's that and I I'd
listen to event two with
the traditional broadcast
events one and three with
the tailgate broadcast I
really like the tailgate
broadcast it sounds awesome
Um,
I'm really a fan of that and the
athletes they have in again,
they had Carolyn DeMarco.
They've had, uh,
Annie Thorstein or Nanny Sakamoto.
They've had, um, in the strong man,
they have those people come in, um,
that I don't really know them very well,
but, uh,
I'm actually enjoying some of that.
The stone to the pillar or
stone to the whiskey barrel,
whatever they they're doing there.
I thought that was fun to watch.
Um,
but I'm having a good time with that as
well.
one the one thing at the
tailgate though I do have
to say I don't think the
legends keep up with uh
what's going on in the
sport very well interesting because
China Cho is with Pat
Sherwood on one side of the
desk and Miko Salo and
Tommy Hackenbrook are on the other.
And Hackenbrook goes, oh, Gabby,
isn't she like really good
friends with Laura?
Don't they train together?
And China is subtly trying to go, well,
Gabby's training at Krypton
and the Hackenbrook's like, well,
doesn't Laura train there too?
Not right now.
She's not training there now.
And China's trying to like
get through the interview
and Hackenbrook is just oblivious.
to the drama that's going on in the sport.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
It just,
you could tell China was very
uncomfortable.
She should have just said, I think,
I think there's a little
bit of a tiff there.
So I was watching one of the
recaps from Savan and
someone brought up that
Peter brought up that
situation when Josh was on
the desk and Josh like
slammed Peter down for bringing it up.
so I don't yeah and I would
I did not witness that
piece so I do not know if
that is true that was just
reported um on a wrap-up
from savan so I don't even
know if that really
happened or or what but
yeah overall that's been
really fun to watch miko
salo is not the best color
commentator he does not speak much
He's probably watching and
like curious and then
forgets to speak up.
Yeah.
I just don't think it's his thing.
Right.
Right.
English is not his, his first language.
And I love Nico.
Like he is a great dude.
I've met,
I met him at rogue in twenty one
and he actually chatted with me.
He's a great person.
I just think like he shined
from the camera and yeah.
I wish Pat would have asked
him more direct questions.
Cause there is this like
legend of Miko kind of thing.
If you're an OG CrossFitter
that people like to hear.
After doing Miko's triangle.
I'm not a fan of that guy.
They did ask the question of the machines.
China brought this up.
Love, like, or hate.
And it was the SkiErg rower echo bike.
And Miko said the SkiErg.
He loves the other two.
Okay.
Hackenbrook said get rid of the rower.
Oh, my gosh.
He said, I used to love it,
but the older I get, the less I like it.
I could see that.
And China said the marathon
row ruined her forever on the road.
I could see that.
So,
but those are kind of the conversations
they have.
And Margo did, or not Margo,
but China did talk about
the marathon row and people
were like Hackenbrook and
Mika who were before that time were like,
how bad was it?
Like the half marathon was bad.
Right.
Like, and they're,
they're like really
interested in what pace did you hold?
And she's like two fourteen.
They're like, no way.
Oh, that's awesome.
So it was really, it was really fun.
Um, watching that.
Um, and I really highly recommend it.
It's twenty five bucks.
I mean,
it's a movie with you and your wife
or you and your husband or whatever.
Um,
and it's great and it's
entertaining so um tomorrow
we have do we know what the
events are tomorrow we
don't know six right I
don't have these pulled up
um I know corey sent me
them the other day well I
have it in heat one duh
Four is the hunting haggis,
thousand meter row, thirty thrusters,
thirty or twenty log muscle ups.
I'm very happy that they adjusted that.
Thirty thrusters, thousand meter row,
so back up.
And then... We have devil's tail,
three rope climbs, twenty-one single arms,
sear bell, devil's press,
three rope climbs, twenty-one single arms,
sear bell, devil's press,
three rope climbs.
And that is a one hundred
seventy pound one hundred for the men,
seventy for the women.
Yeah.
That's going to be like a clean and jerk.
And it's it's that thick.
Yeah.
Rounded bell.
Yeah.
A candle.
Yep.
So.
So, yeah,
that's event two and or event
five and then six, we do not know.
so any thoughts on those two
workouts tomorrow I love
the hunting haggis I mean I
like them both but I I
think I think this one's
going to actually be a
better race for the women
um seems appropriate I'm
glad they put that to
twenty um because that one
year I feel like no no
women finished you know it
was just silly um
I think it'll still be
another good race between
Gabby and Laura.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I like that one.
So hunting, I guess, other than Tia,
who wins?
Second place girl?
Yep.
I don't know.
I think I think I normally
would pick like some of me like Ariel.
She doesn't seem like she
has quite the fire.
She's in fifth place.
Yeah, I know.
I just feel like I don't know.
I think she's I think she
looks better here than she
did at the games.
before like yeah it all
crumbled apart but yeah um
I think this is a laura
event she's a killer on the
rower yeah that's two
thousand meters of rowing I
think it's gonna be I think
it's gonna be close again
there between gabby and
laura but yeah laura will
probably be second to tia
I'm just hope I guess I'm
hoping gabby can hang in there
Um,
and then the three rope climbs and the
devil's press over and over again.
I mean,
I think Laura's going to crush that one.
Unfortunately, like, yeah,
it's regular rope climbs.
Yeah.
Which everyone's pretty
great at regular rope climbs.
Who else can,
who else is going to move
that dumbbell fast?
Taylor Williamson.
Yes, she will.
And she's tall.
Yeah.
That should be a good workout for her.
I didn't realize she was as
slow as she is.
I did not expect her to be
that far back into that one.
Yeah.
I, she's, her running is not good.
I did.
I guess I didn't realize it was that bad.
So then for the men,
any thoughts on the row thruster?
Um, I mean, I think,
I think Pat is going to do
great at that one.
He's my pick.
Second?
I don't know.
Maybe Ricky.
Yeah, my dark horse is Hoppa Linen.
Okay.
It just seems to be one of
those sneaky workouts he's
really good at.
I guess I don't know how his...
log muscle ups will be.
Well, he's just, he's taller.
He's probably got bigger hands.
Yup.
Yup.
Um, that's, that was my only thought.
Yup.
And then on the other one,
that just seems like a Jeff
Adler type workout to me.
Yeah.
I mean,
we know he's so good at like
cleaning jerks,
which is probably how
you're going to handle that dumbbell.
And he's good at rope climbs.
Yeah.
Brent will do great at it.
That's a heavy dumbbell for Brent.
Yeah.
Last events where he drops the, the,
the launch or he drops the
overhead position on something.
Um, but that it's not the last event yet.
So, yeah.
You think,
you think Hopper will do well at
that one or do you think it's too heavy?
I think Hopper will do fine.
Hopper looks really good.
He does.
But he has never been good
at the log muscle-up.
Yeah.
So I think he's going to
have a bad event four.
So either he's going to come
out and need this one,
or hopefully it doesn't get to his head.
He has always been very bad
at the log muscle-up.
Well, maybe he got one to practice on.
Yeah,
JR probably has three of them in his
turnover.
Probably did.
He might be a whole new man.
Maybe.
All right, well, that should be fun.
I don't even have my picks
in yet for Heat One on that,
so I'll have to get those in tonight.
Because I am not in seventh.
I'm in like three hundred.
I'm in like two hundred, so.
I only missed on one bad pick, too.
Like everybody else I had was top four.
I know I don't feel like I did terrible,
but I don't know.
Whatever.
I picked Maddie Sturt in the back squat.
I thought she,
with her lower range of motion,
and I know she's pretty strong for size,
I thought she'd move faster at that.
So that one hurt me a little bit.
And I picked Valner in the
ring muscle-up one.
Not where I thought he'd be.
So those two hurt me.
Yeah, I picked Pat in the squat handstand.
He came in fourth or fifth.
Did he?
I think.
It wasn't bad, but it wasn't like seventh.
Sorry.
Came in seventh.
It was his best finish of the day.
But that's not saying a whole lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh,
Kenneth asks if we saw the trailer
for the game stock.
I did.
And it actually does look good.
Yeah.
And it looks like more
people than they've been
doing lately in one.
So I don't know.
I'll probably end up buying
the damn thing.
Um, I do every year,
but I feel like I'm principal.
I can't, I,
I'm just gonna wait until it
comes out I I usually I
used to wait until they did
like the like holiday
special we'll sell it for
four bucks or something
like that um I don't know
I'm not even sure it's
really going to come out on
the date they said this time so um
Uh, but yeah, I like,
the only thing is if I
bought it on Amazon,
then it's in like my little,
like little queue that when
I fly somewhere,
I can download it into my
phone and I can watch them
on the plane as I'm going
to a CrossFit event.
And it kind of helps me get
my mind right going in.
But, yeah, I don't know.
We'll see.
That makes me think of
Rolo's Mean for Time little
Instagram post that he put up.
Did you see it?
No.
Oh, because he was in the...
I guess I don't know if all
the seats are like that,
but he was in the big seat,
like the lay down seat.
And he was doing like mini
shuttle runs in the lane,
doing pushups on the bed.
And then in one of the scenes,
he's like scrolling through the TV.
He's like,
you gotta get the fittest on here.
It was a really good meme.
I liked it.
He's really good at those.
Yeah.
He had one out today with Jason CF,
like commentating his bad reps.
It's pretty good.
Cause I like Jason a lot too.
So it was cool seeing that, but.
thank you everybody for
tuning in uh we'll try to
do another one of these
tomorrow night um at some
point um it would have to
be before the penn state
game tomorrow night I don't
even know when does
michigan state play we have
a bye oh you have a bye wow
nice pretty sure unless I
looked at that wrong cool
yeah so probably sometime
enough time for Jamie to
watch some of the events
after she gets home from the gym.
Yeah, exactly.
With that guys,
thank you for joining us today.
You guys are the best.
We'll see everybody next
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We are Clydesdale or Friday night.
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